Is Christian Unity Possible?

Is Christian Unity Possible? by Chip Brogden

Jesus prayed for a spiritual unity in Him first and foremost.  From there anything is possible, even deep relationships and fellowship with others. But that can only happen when your spiritual life is founded upon a deep, abiding belief in three core principles.  There can be no compromise with these three basic truths... READ THE REST: http://www.chipbrogden.com/is-christian-unity-possible/ I am your brother,

Chip Brogden

Personal Health Update, Prophetic Post-election

Hi all,

I have so much to write about and update you on...first, I received quite a few people from around the world who were curious about last month's word for the US based mail-out newsletter, so I've decided to share a bit here as well. You won't be lost if you didn't get last month's newsletter, so I'll pick it up with this month's mail-out 'part two', now included in this e-newsletter.

 

I also want to mention I'm doing Wednesday morning teachings live on Facebook - about 10 minutes each - I felt prompted to do this, and so I just ask the Father what He has in mind, and it just drops in me so I share basic points. I also post them on YouTube, just look up John C Fenn videos and you should see a few. 

 

Some catching up to things the Father has told me:

I've shared several times before (but just to make sure everyone is on the same page), "The President and his policies will be more dangerous after he leaves office than when he was in" and "The collapse will come when conservatives are in charge" and the vision that went with that word:  It was a vision of a playground slide with a man in a suit that I knew represented conservative's efforts, trying to climb the slide but every time he got part way up he would slide right down again, representing efforts to control entitlement programs and the budget expenses of the nation. I expect from that word progress will be made, but it won't be smooth sailing and will have setbacks. 

 

With the election we have some clarity. His word to me that was if I recall in September 2004 in context about terrorist attacks on US soil that was 'Watch out when Hilary takes office" can be seen as Secretary of State and the many attacks in this nation since 2009, and the larger changes in the nation - we certainly have had to 'watch out'.

 

To pick up on the vision in October:

As the Father was speaking: I was flying (I thought just me at first, but then I realized I was in an airplane that represented the body of Christ in the US) - looking over the nation, in between cloud layers, in safety in sunshine (Son-shine) between 2 layers as the Father spoke.

             

The bottom layer, closest to the ground, was what He told me (Obama) would be doing in the cities to organize and move things around in terms of voting districts and people in the near future, and being smart about how they plan to change the nation. That is the main point; He said that he will be working to rearrange voting districts and pulling together formerly disconnected or loosely connected people into an organized movement and network across the big cities, which will be in place to stir civil unrest in the future.

 

He kept saying he and they were going to be 'smart' about it - the emphasis was on the organizing of demonstrations and dogged pursuit of change against the 'normal' American culture. Much of it would be unseen by most, and all this was what the bottom cloud layer was about, and it was an attempt at a grassroots organizing of protests for the purpose of breaking down society in opposition to what others are trying to do.

 

As He spoke it was like a playback of a highlights film before me, of instances when people disagreed with the President and he accused those who disagreed with him of being racist or homophobic and so on – unwilling to discuss issues intellectually, so he fell back to personal accusations directed to those who opposed his ideas. 

 

Suddenly I saw him behind the scene in a puppet stage pulling strings unseen as a puppeteer using agencies and individuals to harass Christians and conservatives and such. (I’m just giving the main points lightly here for the sake of space) And I heard the Father say, “Now imagine taking that to a local level and organizing people who believe those things into a nation-wide network.” Only then did I get the scope of what He was showing me – the cloud covered most of the land, heaviest in the eastern US at first but almost in the Midwest equally so.

 

The top layer of cloud not visible from the ground was the new administration and there was a separation between the two cloud layers - as I said with us flying in between; one layer doing one thing and the top layer doing another, with me (us) flying in between.

               

This is the most important part for us: I was totally in peace - I was in between those layers - between the ugliness in the unrest in the cities and society, and in between the government's agenda: I (we) were in sunshine (Sonshine) in a safe place and flying (a type of going about life) in smooth air. 

 

I've shared before how the Father often shares with me 'big picture' things while the Lord talks of the body of Christ. About 2 days after this word from the Father the Lord started talking to me about what would be going on in the body of Christ in this time, both in the US and around the world. 

 

In the US He said church buildings - not just conservatives and Christians and Jews - but houses of worship will be attacked, and there is coming a time when many will not feel safe 'going to church'. He spoke of the continued rise of family and home based churches, and as He spoke a vision played out before me:

 

He and I were suddenly in someone's living room, standing more in the corner of the room while several people were talking and eating and playing with kids who were playing with some toy just off-center in the room. As they talked and some interacted with the small children, the Lord started pointing to different ones in the room, noting their particular differences theologically and emotionally with others in the room. 

 

I won't share the details of what He said of each person in case what He was showing me was real people at some future time, but He pointed to a man and noted he believed some end times things that were different than anyone else in that church. He pointed to a woman who had strife issues He said with another woman in the room. He pointed to another couple and talked of their marriage difficulties, and so on around the room...including questions and hurts some of the children had. 

 

And then He stopped and turn fully towards me saying, "But in that day, none of these things will matter. The days of luxury this nation and much of the world has had to dwell on differences of doctrine and arguments between themselves, are over. He was smiling as He talked, and I got the feeling He was inwardly thinking "Finally!" when He continued, 

 

"Love will become the focus and many will grow up in that day and know what is truly important, which they've actually known all along but have stubbornly stuck to their childish ways. But there will be still more who have been caught up in the world and petty strifes and things which never were important, and they will be afraid and insecure when they see such things around them. Thinking they have been people of faith, they will discover they were not for they will have no peace- this is one way you'll know them - they won't have peace -  but had placed their faith in man and man's doctrines and not me nor those who mind the things of me. In that day be gracious to those who repent, and watch that your heart not be hardened against them, though they knew all along the path to walk."

 

And there was more - but enough for now. Barb and I have long talked what would happen in the US if conservatives ever grew a backbone and put controls on federal spending and how those who are used to getting things for free would rebel - think that through Americans. But I also know there will be others who will rise up to confront some of the demonstrations and rioting that will come on this nation...a battle for the soul of the US is about to be engaged. Pray some of these things will be lessened or not happen at all.

 

On a personal note - we've been dealing with several things roughly the last 3-4 months I've not said anything about other than me and my AFib and battle to lose about 10 more pounds. I'm down 45 from my high, but still have 10 to go. Barb has been dealing with thyroid cysts which affect her whole system and after the first of the year will probably have the required surgery. But first, about the first of December will also be having her gallbladder removed - lots of tests these last 3 months, lots of thinking and research and prayer and...money, lol. That has been rough for her affecting everything in life, for the gallbladder, liver, and thyroid are all connected...so it has been rough, but she is very private and only now gave me permission to ask for prayer as she is nervous about it all, and just share with people. 

 

Our insurance has a $7500 deductible, its the level of coverage we can afford as even for the 2 of us with our Christian co-op sharing it still costs over $500 per month for coverage, so we've been paying cash as we go and been able, plus the monthly fee - all I've alluded to in the newsletters is that we have some needs right now - but this surgery will be a big one as they're going to do a couple procedures, and then probably her thyroid cysts (at least) removed in January - so keep Barb in prayer, thanks so much. 

 

As many of you know, health issues have a way of wearing you out and taking a lot of time. With each blood test, ultrasound, CT and MRI it is another doctor, another week, another missed communication leaving the sick person to bridge the gap between medical specialties when they aren't running here and there having tests and consultatons...it has worn her out.

 

Chris - I had a meeting with the leadership (CEO) of the group home - a company with about 300 or more clients in homes all over Northeast Oklahoma - trying to settle some issues we're having in Chris' group home while also providing ideas and solutions for the whole company. It was a good meeting, but we've had to deal a lot with staff changes and Chris' behaviors and such...thanks for your prayers.

 

In terms of family and home based house churches - they continue to be in all stages all over the globe. As I've said all along, it is the relationships that count - the world will pass but we are already in eternity and will know each other thousands of years from now - so we need to do as the Word says and make allowances for one another, be quick to apologize and make things right, and lose the focus on trivial fringe doctrines that cause fear and uncertainty. 

 

Trips - depending on Barb's surgery(s) I'm still planning to start traveling again in February, but we've really needed this time to focus on her and Chris and network things. I hope you understand, I'm not flashy, we're just us trying to walk with the Father as best as we know. There are so many times I ask the Father how in the world He expects me to care for Chris 2 days a week plus the medical things and staff things Barb coordinates, do the ministry with all the prayer and study and writing and video and recording and traveling, and juggle sometimes everything from life and death issues half way across the world or closer to home, or soothe someone's hurt feelings over things they brought on themselves...it gets tiring. We are looking forward to the Thanksgiving break.

 

So that is why those of you who pray for us are so important. We've had people email saying we've been on their hearts are we okay, but I was only able to respond in generalities - and in the US those who send in prayer requests, and those who email - know that we love you, I pray for those requests - from getting a relative out of prison to healed relationship between parent and adult child to looking for work  and so much more - it is a privilege to pray for you. 

 

And to those who go the extra mile to donate and join with us in the ministry to the saints, no matter how big or small the gift, you will never know this side of eternity how your generosity and consistency bless us and provide for us. There are so many times the Father uses people just in the nick of time, and we just shake our heads in humble amazement of His care for us through you. Thank you for being in our lives, blessings,

John & Barb

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Miracles Still Happen!!

In This Issue...  Miracles Still Happen!!  More Recent Articles

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Often when in Bikeke we get to visit some of the homes of the vulnerable children attending Liberty School, most of whom would not be attending school at all without the vision of the Director John Wayonye. It’s always a very humbling experience to sit in the dwellings for even a few minutes with the relatives of some of the students and hear their stories.
This particular time, we got to visit a single mom Jentrix Nangami whom we had visited last year. When we reached her place, I couldn’t believe it was the same woman. She was grinning ear to ear, so happy to receive us and especially thrilled to share what’s been going on. She excitedly started with telling us how she was able to “expand” her home to not just one room for the six of them, but now she had “added” to now have two rooms. It was clean, decorated, homey and inviting. I couldn’t possibly tell you what it was like being with this electrifying mom, so I’ll let her tell you herself. Remember English is a second language for her that she rarely uses. We were so grateful for her courage to just step out and talk to us freely without a translator. Here is part of her share:
“By the time my husband died. He left me with five childrens. I was pregnant. My last daughter now she was with me six months pregnant. So by that time, I think this was the end of my life. How will I do with these childrens? My father, he told me, ‘Come, just come home.’ It was very, very painful. I say that I cannot go home because of the death of my husband. I say I will just go back where I was staying. By that time, I was just there (pointing across the marketplace) behind there; I was not working. I am not where I am now. So when I came to the market I was totally naked. My life was very poor. I had no one who can even see me and even assist me in food. It was a very hard life. But, I appreciate God where He assisted me.
“I think where will I with my children be landing. I called the Director to ask for a chance for my childrens. He asked me so many, many questions and I was trying. When he looked at me, he told me God must do very much and you are going very far, because what God can do, no man can do. I appreciate it so much. I feel like, the one who is giving some assistance to him. He took my children, those four of them. The little one was still young. He started life with him and I saw many marvelous things. For the first week the children came back home, I saw, ‘This is my children?’ I was very surprised to look at my children and see them come where I am, ‘Mom, mom!’ I was wondering! ‘Is this my daughters, my children?’ I was wondering. They were wearing very beautiful uniform; they have shoes. Even my neighbors are looking at them. I appreciate that so much. It is true. It is Mungu (God) is the one doing marvelous things.
“So I am continuing with my life. I get a chance in the borehole (well) there. There is one who is there who give me that work there. They give me by the end of the month something small for my assistance. So, I believe in God He can do marvelous things. And I appreciate God and through you I know very well that God has a plan. He said I am going to take your husband, and there are some people who are going to stand with you. … I don’t know what I shall say…you are doing very different things, which when I think or I look at you, I say, ‘Live long!!!’”
To put her whole story in perspective and why it was such a touching time (one of our male team members couldn’t even share he was so emotional because of her very obvious sincere and animated gratitude amidst what in our eyes was extreme poverty). Sitting with her five children and one neighbor girl in a two room “apartment” with barely anything, it was indeed humbling to be with someone showing such obvious gratitude for all God had done in her, for her children, and for their lives as a family. She felt loved, cared about, part of, as well as having dignity as a woman who could exist and provide for her children. She had applied for and been given the job of managing the community borehole (well), where people in the village come, pay two shillings to fill their jerry cans. Her hours? 6am until 7pm with a couple of hours for lunch. Her pay? One thousand shillings a month…$10. Her response? Gratitude.

 

Heaven’s Royal Family

Heaven’s Royal Family

(No 24, pg 1-9)

November 4, 2015

By C. H. James

Teaching Objective:                                           (hisservants@juno.com)

To make clear the relationship that exists in the Godhead between the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Also to recognize the differences in form, function and authority of each. Also helping to overcome some seemingly ambiguous impressions.

Remember: God is a title, not a proper name.

Exodus 20:3

3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

If this command is necessary, then “God” would have to be a title.

Note: You may hear some things taught that you’ve never heard before. They may cause you to re-examine your present understanding; isn’t this what a bible study is for?

Jesus, before his disciples received the Holy Spirit, told them, “I have many things to say but you cannot bear them now” (John 16:12)

Paul wrote: And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet are ye able” (1 Corinthians 3:1, 2). Those Paul spoke this to had received the Holy Spirit.

Little Babies vomit (projectile) when they’re fed too much, too fast or are simply unable to digest what they’ve been fed.

How old or spiritually mature must we be to digest the meat of God’s word? Are we ready? Is a bible study just to confirm what we think we know or to continue the process of learning? Many today, attend a bible study expecting to hear what they already know.

How can we teach others what we ourselves have not learned or understood? I have meat to feed you, but before we go further, consider what my job is.

Their Job

Ephesians 4:11, 12

11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

Our Job

2 Timothy 2:2

2 And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.

Is Jesus God? (remember God is a title)

John 1:1

1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

John 20:28

28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

1 Timothy 1:1

1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope;

1 Timothy 2:3

3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

1 Timothy 3:16

16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Titus 1:3

3 But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour;

Titus 2:10

10 Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.

Titus 3:4

4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,

Was Jesus The Creator?

(Hebrews 1:3) “by the word of his power”

(Hebrews 11:3) “the worlds were framed by the word of God”

(Hebrews 1:10) “Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth”

(John 1:1-3) “All things were made by him” (John 1:14)

(Colossians 1:16) “For by him were all things created”

Why do we associate the word “God” with the Father?

Answer: Because Jesus did.

Is There An Order In The Godhead? (ranking)

Yes

John 14:28-“The Father is greater than I”

John 16: 13, 14-“He (the Holy Spirit) shall glorify me”

But What About

(Philippians 2:6)-“Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God” (Equal in power but not equal in rank)

(Power vs rank) (Colossians 1:19, 2:9)-“In him (Jesus) dwelleth all the fullness (power) of the Godhead bodily”

(1 Colossians 11:3)-The head of Christ is God

(John 8:29)-“I do always those things which please him.”

(Hebrews 10:12, Hebrews 12:2)-Jesus sits at the right hand

Notice:

(Philippians 2:6) “Who being in the form of God…”

The Father and the Holy Spirit have no form. They are invisible.

Genesis 1:26

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

God (the Father) is a spirit.

Colossians 1:15

15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

Jesus is the image, i.e. the form of the invisible God

In His Image

We are created in the image of God, in his likeness.

Genesis 1:26

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Who created us and in whose image are we?

God walked in the garden of Eden

Genesis 3:8

8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

God breathed into the dust and man became

Genesis 2:7

7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Spirit’s don’t walk, so who spoke to Adam?

Theologics

Jesus (Adoni Elohyim) walks; he is the image of man

Daniel 3:24, 25

24 Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellers, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king.

25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

Is The Holy Spirit A Person?

Person, any of the separate individualities of God.

Does He Have A Gender?

John 14:26

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 15:26

26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

John 16:13, 14

13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

Judging by how often the pronoun “he” is used above, I think it’s safe to conclude that the Holy Spirit is of the masculine gender.

A Person? Yes

Matthew 28:19

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Luke 3:22

22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

1 Peter 1:12

12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

1 John 5:7

7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (united by agreement)

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine (teaching), for reproof (defense), for correction (of error), for instruction in righteousness. If we believe this, then we must accept what it teaches us without regard to our preferences.

Does Jesus Have A God?

(Matthew 27:46) “My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?”

(John 20:17) “I ascend unto my Father and your Father; and to my God and your God.”

(Ephesians 1:3) “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”

(Ephesians 1:17) “that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ”

(1 Peter 1:3) “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”

(Hebrews 1:8, 9) “Therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above they fellows.”

(Revelation 3:12) “Temple of my God…name of my God…name of the city of my God…down out of heaven from my God.”

(Romans 6:16) “To whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey.”

Could there be any other answer to this question but, yes?

John 8:29

29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.

Nana’s Book

                                                                                            By: C. H. James

It stood all alone

In a place of its own

‘Twas the secret of life

She said

Its cover was worn

Its pages were torn

This book that my

Grandmother read

On a table it lay

By night and by day

Near the rocker where

She would read

Her plants by her chair

She would mediate there

It seemed she had no other need

It recorded our births

And all of the deaths

And the day that she

Was wed

Tears stained some pages

In this book of the ages

This book that my

Grandmother read

She treasured each word

And made certain we heard

Its wisdom so very old

How could we fail to receive

Or fail to believe

The truths she so sweetly told

My Nana is gone

But her words linger on

For I teach them to all

Who give ear

And I’ll see her one day

When we meet on the way

To our Savior and Lord so dear

The book tattered and torn

With its pages so worn

Has been passed to another to teach

Some will hear Jesus’ voice

And will make the right choice

All whose hearts He can reach

The word of God reveals the truth of God delivered to us by the Spirit of God. God, says what he means and means what he says.